8 SEPTEMBER 2025 · 1 HOUR 22 MINUTES · PHILOSOPHY
Is justice valuable in itself, or only for its rewards? Plato’s Republic joins political order, moral psychology and knowledge in one of philosophy’s most provocative answers.
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Episode summary
Set against Athenian political upheaval and the execution of Socrates, the Republic asks what justice is in both the individual soul and the city. Samuel Woodall and Jack Thomson examine philosopher-rulers, education, the tripartite soul and Plato’s critique of democracy.
The discussion also explores the Forms and the allegory of the cave. Plato’s ideal city may be a blueprint, an analogy or a warning; its enduring force lies partly in the difficulty of deciding which.
Questions explored
- Why does Plato compare justice in the soul with justice in the city?
- What qualifies philosopher-rulers to govern?
- How do education and censorship function in the ideal city?
- Is the Republic a political programme, a philosophical analogy or a cautionary tale?
Participants
- Samuel Woodall: intellectual historian and co-host of Beyond the Text.
- Jack Thomson: philosopher and co-host of Beyond the Text.
Sources and further reading
- Plato, Republic, especially Books I–VII.
- Julia Annas, An Introduction to Plato’s Republic (1981).
- C. D. C. Reeve, Philosopher-Kings: The Argument of Plato’s Republic (1988).
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Chicago style: Samuel Woodall and Jack Thomson, hosts, “Plato’s Republic,” Beyond the Text, podcast audio, 1 hr., 22 min., 8 September 2025, https://beyondthetext.buzzsprout.com/2238237/episodes/17130095-plato-s-republic.
